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Daniel Dennett
"Fame in the Brain"

Daniel Dennett talks about his metaphor: Consciousness is “Fame in the Brain”.

I have some problems with Dennett’s take on Consciousness, but I’ll grind that axe some other time… certainly I always find his ideas thought-provoking.

This idea has some extra notoriety lately due to it’s association with the Tedx talk: Google Consciousness.  Turns out his “Fame in the Brain” translates pretty well to “Fame in the Search Engine”.  My objections to Dennett notwithstanding, I actually have no problem entertaining the idea of a complicated and conscious search engine.

While browsing, I came across these photos from an art instalation in one of the libraries at UC Berkeley, (created by J. Ignacio Diaz de Rabago), and to me they seemed perfect for Daniel Dennett’s metaphor comparing the Narrative Self to a Center of Gravity.

The photos are inspirational of course, but the content of the metaphor is worth some thought too.  What do we know about the more definite thing, the Center of Gravity? (objectively defined, yet intangible and dependant on frame of reference…).  And how do these things apply to consciousness or the Self?

Human consciousness is just about the last surviving mystery. A mystery is a phenomenon that people don’t know how to think about - yet. There have been other great mysteries: the mystery of the origin of the universe, the mystery of life and reproduction, the mystery of the design to be found in nature, the mysteries of time, space, and gravity. These were not just areas of scientific ignorance, but of utter bafflement and wonder. We do not yet have all the answers to any of the questions of cosmology and particle physics, molecular genetics and evolutionary theory, but we do know how to think about them …. With consciousness, however, we are still in a terrible muddle. Consciousness stands alone today as a topic that often leaves even the most sophisticated thinkers tongue-tied and confused. And, as with all of the earlier mysteries, there are many who insist — and hope — that there will never be a demystification of consciousness.

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Daniel C. Dennett, Consciousness Explained (via scienceyquotes)

I want to understand it in a way that increases the wonder, not reduces the mystery.

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Skull Paradox sketch by Heilelbs

This drawing reminds me of the idea of the Cartesian Theatre.
I made a post on this (very interesting) topic a while back, and I could have used this image.  As it was, I used my limited technological artistic ability to cope.
What Is It? The basic idea of the Cartesian Theatre is that there’s a spot in the brain where all incoming information is assembled and presented for our consciousness.  So, once information reaches that point, that’s when we become aware of it.
Why Doesn’t It Work? Daniel Dennett, who coined the term, pointed out that if information is assembled, we can ask “Who is it being assembled for?“  It’s almost like there’s some little mini-human inside our heads (a “homunculus”) that is monitoring the data.
Of course, then, if we’re trying to explain how our brain functions, we have to delve into the brain of the mini-human, where perhaps we find a mini-mini human… this could go on forever.  This leads to the academic and humorous phrase: “Infinite Regression of Homunculi”.
The skulls, above, could be the remains of said infinite regression.

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Skull Paradox sketch by Heilelbs

This drawing reminds me of the idea of the Cartesian Theatre.

I made a post on this (very interesting) topic a while back, and I could have used this image.  As it was, I used my limited technological artistic ability to cope.

What Is It? The basic idea of the Cartesian Theatre is that there’s a spot in the brain where all incoming information is assembled and presented for our consciousness.  So, once information reaches that point, that’s when we become aware of it.

Why Doesn’t It Work? Daniel Dennett, who coined the term, pointed out that if information is assembled, we can ask “Who is it being assembled for?“  It’s almost like there’s some little mini-human inside our heads (a “homunculus”) that is monitoring the data.

Of course, then, if we’re trying to explain how our brain functions, we have to delve into the brain of the mini-human, where perhaps we find a mini-mini human… this could go on forever.  This leads to the academic and humorous phrase: “Infinite Regression of Homunculi”.

The skulls, above, could be the remains of said infinite regression.

Daniel Dennett
"Homuncular Functionalism"
The Personal and Subpersonal - conference 11-12 May 2012

“…they’re robots made of robots made of robots.  But they’re AGENTS.  You adopt the intentional stance towards them and IT WORKS.”

Daniel Dennett, talking about individual neurons.

In this talk he addresses what he calls “Homuncular Functionalism”, which a layperson might want to call anthropomorphism directed at subsystems of one’s own brain/self.  In this 3 minute bite, Dennett claims that neurons are sufficiently complex to be considered intentional (to have intentions).

This excert is from a one-hour talk on the Personal/Subpersonal distinction, available from the Backdoor Broadcasting Company.

Daniel Dennett
"It Seemed A Good Idea At The Time"
The Personal and Subpersonal - conference 11-12 May 2012

In the middle of an unrelated talk, Daniel Dennett says to his audience “It seemed like a good idea at the time”, and then laughs at himself and spends the next 60 seconds explaining all the complex machinery implied by that little phrase.

If you’ve never heard Dennett’s actual voice, you should listen.  It’s only 60 seconds, and gives you some idea that he likely wins a lot of arguments, and befriends opposing debaters at the same time.

What I’m Listening To… August 30th 2012

Three podcasts:

  1. Hadrian’s Wall from BBC 4’s In Our Time.  I listened to this after a post about it from isomorphismes (can’t seem to relocate the specific post).  History is not my favorite topic, so I found this a little slow.  Hadrian’s Wall is a wall in Northern England built by the Roman Emperor Hadrian.  One of the most interesting tidbits for me was about some tablets unearthed there revealing some of the day-to-day of maintaining an army and an empire in 100AD (grocery lists, personal letters, etc).
  2. The latest episode of 99% Invisible, although this is the off season, so this episode Roman Mars presented some material from other podcasts he’s a fan of (and said thanks to his many many kickstarter supporters).  The best bit for me: an Irish program explaining why we call levels of Buildings “stories” (and yes, it is related to stories as in narratives).
  3. A talk by Daniel Dennett on the Personal/Subpersonal distinction from the Backdoor Broadcasting Co.  It’s fun hearing Mr Dennett speak, and this talk was no exception.  Though, I don’t think I can clip any soundbites… it was too spread out and not very self-contained in any bits.  For those interested though, I recommend the whole thing.  It includes comparing an elevator operator with an elevator operating algorithm to see where the “person” comes into it.  It also includes a comparison of persons and subpersons to computer code and it’s commenting by the programmer.  I might create a post on this topic in order to argue against this metaphor, which I found uncharacteristically shallow.

That’s all for today.  For general info on What I’m Listening To, click here.  Happy listening.

I finished this book yesterday.  Though I love to read, I read slowly, so finishing a non-fiction book cover-to-cover only happens a few times a year.  Here’s what I thought of this one in 3 points:
Easy to read.  Noe doesn’t belabour his points unlike some that write about consciousness (cough cough, Dennett!).  Convincing, well argued, and even poetic at times.
Different.  This take on consciousness was new, without requiring dualism, or any specialness of matter like Penrose.  It is an exciting, novel take on a materialist theory of consciousness.  
Questionable.  Some of the reasoning seemed a little slippery to me at times, perhaps not giving proper credit to some opposing theories.
All told, I highly recommend this book, particularly to those who would like to read about consciousness but never have.  It would make a wonderful introduction.  And though I’ve expressed hesitation in accepting some of the claims Noe makes, I think he pointed out some weak spots in the orthodoxy that I can’t seem to overlook anymore.  The biases of prevailing theories are showing themselves, and I have this book to thank for my new-found x-ray vision.

I finished this book yesterday.  Though I love to read, I read slowly, so finishing a non-fiction book cover-to-cover only happens a few times a year.  Here’s what I thought of this one in 3 points:

  1. Easy to read.  Noe doesn’t belabour his points unlike some that write about consciousness (cough cough, Dennett!).  Convincing, well argued, and even poetic at times.
  2. Different.  This take on consciousness was new, without requiring dualism, or any specialness of matter like Penrose.  It is an exciting, novel take on a materialist theory of consciousness. 
  3. Questionable.  Some of the reasoning seemed a little slippery to me at times, perhaps not giving proper credit to some opposing theories.

All told, I highly recommend this book, particularly to those who would like to read about consciousness but never have.  It would make a wonderful introduction.  And though I’ve expressed hesitation in accepting some of the claims Noe makes, I think he pointed out some weak spots in the orthodoxy that I can’t seem to overlook anymore.  The biases of prevailing theories are showing themselves, and I have this book to thank for my new-found x-ray vision.

Have you heard of Daniel Dennett's intentionality stance in philosophy of mind? It struck me as quite similar in essence to your agent causation theory

I’ve read quite a bit of Dennett, and quite often he wins me over.  If I remember right, the Intentionality Stance is one way of viewing something in the world for the purpose of making predictions (the other two are something like the Physical Stance and the System Stance).

Though I think Dennett ducks some of the tough questions by claiming this is all just a heuristic for prediction, there are some common ideas with what I wrote.  For example:

  • His three stances/levels (physical,system,intentional) are different levels of organizational complexity.
  • He suggests that specific stances are best at explaining/predicting certain events.  This is somewhat like my saying that human-level properties like hunger can’t be well described at lower levels of complexity.

I haven’t by any means read all of Dennett’s writing!  However, I get the idea that Dennett still believes it’s all “really” physical, and the higher level stances are predictive conveniences.  Surely, they are shrewd and necessary conveniences, but this is all the respect they get.

I want to claim that phenomena at all levels have an equal claim on “being real” (whatever that means!)  To be clearer, I don’t think the most reduced levels of complexity should be seen as the most foundational.  For all we know, reduction is an endless process, and we’ll continually have our foundations swept away by the discovery of finer-grained levels of reality.  Any level can provide a foundation of sorts, and have causal effects on it’s own level, and possibly on others.  I haven’t discussed this YET, but I do think some causal connections cross layers, and I do think that the crossing can involve a higher complexity cause and a lower complexity effect.  But more on that later.

To switch gears somewhat, I have also read a lot of what he has to say about free will and determinism.  I posted a nice excerpt from one of his talks in which he describes a kind of freedom we can ascribe to computer chess programs, and I tried to explain the connection a little here.

I’m not sure that I’m in total synch with his views, however my views and his have a similar feel:

  • Both are compatabilist - accepting Determinism, but arguing that some important interpretations of Free Will are still viable.
  • Pointing out that randomness isn’t an alternative to Free Will that we would want.
  • Dennett speaks of secrecy being essential to agency.  It’s hard to pin down how, but having agents be secretive makes me think of agents having human-level attributes that can’t be reduced to lower levels.

Thanks for the response!  Clearly more to come on this topic.

So it seems that Dennett isn't really arguing for the existence of free will, he's just forming a concept of what people mean when they say a choice is made freely, right? So for the sake of mutual understanding, he forms this concept of things that "could be," though it seems ultimately he is just framing that in a world which we know to be deterministic. Thus, he essentially explains why we perceive free choice even though everything really is deterministic. Do you think that's right?

Yeah, that sounds right.  So how come you managed to sum it up in one paragraph and it took me several pages?!  Just kidding.

You’re right that Dennett explains an everyday meaning of free will that is indeed compatable with determinism.  Whether Dennett is onboard with Determinism, I don’t want to commit, but it *seems* he is.

By avoiding the (philosophically) conventional connotations of free will, you may think he was dealing with an uninteresting question.  But I think it’s important.  I’d say the type of free will he talks about (which he calls the only kind worth having) is actually what many people want to defend when they react negatively to determinism.  By creating an idea of free will that salvages some of the dignity we associate with it, and simultaneously cooperates with determinism, he could potentially be trying to end this long argument.

How else is it to end?  One side will rarely admit it’s wrong.  Instead the sides may eventually start communicating, and say “oh, did you mean this?”, and “Oh, well I never meant that”, and end up with “It seems there was never any disagreement all along”.

For those who want more, the post that sparked this question is here.  Thanks for asking!


“The Secrecy is Essential to the Freedom of the Agent…”

- Daniel Dennett
Awhile back, I posted an audio clip of Daniel Dennett talking about chess programs, and how it makes sense to say that one “could have” beat the other, even though they’re deterministic programs.
It was a ten minute clip taken out of the full podcast, which was one hour.  On listening again, I may have lost some of the clarity of the connection to the topic of Free Will in the interests of brevity.  Because I think there is a worthwhile point here, I’m going to take a stab at a written summary.
If you want to find out how chess programs, Secrecy, and Free Will are looped together into one super-meme, click on the read more link…
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Free Will Means Something
If I had to guess, I’d say Dennett believes in physical Determinism.  Still, he speaks to justify and define Free Will for the full hour in this talk.  Whatever inconsistencies may exist, there are sentences that use the concept of Free Will that really mean something.  For example:
I’m more free than a person with bound hands and feet.
In Canada we’re free to criticize our politicians.
An epileptic becomes less free during a seizure.
Unless they’re being difficult (see picture below) anyone, including determinists, will admit that these sentences have meaning and are true.  In his talk, I think Dennett’s aim is to find the definition for a Free Will that is philosophical, but that also applies to common uses like those above.

This Heading “Could Be” Shorter
For Dennett, Free Will is tied up with the idea that something “could be” different than it actually is.  Even if I sit with my hands in my lap, I’m freer than I would be with bound hands, because I “could” make any gesture I like.
For a physical determinist, this is a tricky issue.  An argument could be made that the deterministic conditions leading to my choice to keep my hands still is just as much of a cage as a rope would be.  However, Dennett defines what “could be” means in a way that’s compatable with Determinism.
He says that every “could be” statement has an implicit list of mutable conditions.  For example, to say that I “could make any gesture” might really mean that I “could make any gesture in a hypothetical world where my thought process was different.”
We must not take this too far.  If *any* hypothetical world is allowed, then it would follow that absolutely anything “could be” true.  For example, “I could have leapt into the sky and flown to work today” is false, but if we allow hypothetical worlds where Gravity is different, where humans have wings, etc, we may be tempted to call it true.  So we must not allow *all* conditions to be mutable, only some.
How do we choose?  Which conditions should be mutable?  It seems there are an array of answers “right” enough to pass in everyday English.  However, Dennett suggests that conditions that are Secret are the ones we should allow to be mutable.
Secret Physical Conditions Should Be Mutable
For example, imagine that Tiger Woods and I both attempted to make a hole-in-one, and we both missed.
“I could have made that shot” I say.  My claim is false because I would have to consider a very different hypothetical world, in which non-secret conditions (like my being a uniformly unskilled golfer) are different.
“I could have made that shot” says Tiger.  His claim is true, because he only needs to consider hypothetical worlds where the eddies of wind, or the arrangement of the blades of grass is different, and these conditions are secrets to us as we swing our clubs.
Of course, every agent has many secret conditions right inside their own brains (secret to themselves even).  I suspect that this is what Dennett would say qualifies them as “agents”.
Chess
To drive his point home, Dennett explains how his definition of “could be” functions well even in clearly deterministic situations.  The deterministic situation he chooses is pitting two chess-playing computer programs against each other.  The audio of this part of the talk is available in this post.
To cover himself, Dennett allows the programs to use psuedo random number generators (which are also deterministic by the way).  He then suggests the two programs play 1000 games against each other.  He points out that if the random number generators are restarted from scratch, and 1000 more games are played, they will be the EXACT SAME GAMES as the first time.
Now, we start asking questions, like “Why did program A win game number 611?”  Or, assuming program A won the majority of the games, we can ask “Why did program A win more?”  Dennett astutely points out that the answer “because it was determined to win” is no answer at all.  The true answer, he says, should be something like “because program A is better designed.”
We must ask ourself if program B *could have* won those games.  The answer is yes if B wins in a set of “reasonable” hypothetical worlds.  Such as:
The random number generator(s) are in a different state.
B misses a really good move by only a small amount (ex if B checks 500 scenarios, but 502 were required).
A notices and makes a really good move by only a small amount (ex if A checks 500 scenarios and the 495th is the good move).
On the other hand, some hypothetical worlds are not allowed in the consideration of whether B could have won:
A or B have different algorithms.
The rules of chess are different.
The random number generator(s) manage to work in B’s favour every time.
The items in this list are evidently false, wheras changes like those in the first list would be secret.  Roughly speaking, saying truthfully whether or not these chess programs could have behaved differently (even though they are deterministic) is consistent with Dennett’s definition of “could have”.
The Conclusion in Bullets
All common references to Free Will rely on what “could be” true.
What “could be” true relies on varying some conditions and considering the resulting hypothetical worlds.
Choosing which conditions are allowed to vary is hard.
One mostly consistent choice is that Secret conditions may vary, but others may not.
This use of “could be” may even be applied to obviously deterministic situations, like chess programs, without contradiction.

“The Secrecy is Essential to the Freedom of the Agent…”

- Daniel Dennett

Awhile back, I posted an audio clip of Daniel Dennett talking about chess programs, and how it makes sense to say that one “could have” beat the other, even though they’re deterministic programs.

It was a ten minute clip taken out of the full podcast, which was one hour.  On listening again, I may have lost some of the clarity of the connection to the topic of Free Will in the interests of brevity.  Because I think there is a worthwhile point here, I’m going to take a stab at a written summary.

If you want to find out how chess programs, Secrecy, and Free Will are looped together into one super-meme, click on the read more link…

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Determinism

This post really got my wheels turning, since (as some may know) I like this topic.  I’d recommend this blog to anyone who likes living philosophy; the moderator isn’t kidding, he’ll happily and respectfully debate and answer questions.

After you read, check out this post.  It contains a clip of Daniel Dennett talking about “free will worth having”, which seems to involve hypothetical worlds and/or secrecy.  Very interesting!  Even more, he applies his thoughts to computer chess playing programs!

thievishmonkey:

[To clarify, I’m not going to talk here about scientific determinism, the view that it’s possible to predict the future with knowledge of the present. As far as I understand, there is no knowledge we have access to that would allow this, especially in regard to quantum particles. I’m going to talk about philosophical determinism, the view that there is no free will.]

The view that there is no free will is much like atheism and nihilism, in that it is a lack of belief in some thing. However, determinism is a special case for two reasons, because it concerns a thing that supposedly exists within ourselves, and because the very idea of free will is self-defeating. For these reasons, a simple referral to the burden of proof would be insufficient to explain the rationality behind denying the existence of free will.

It is sometimes said that free will is an illusion, and if it is it’s a most effective one. We perceive having free will when we make any choice; we perceive within our own minds the ability to decide among various outcomes by whim. We believe that the choice we make is one of many possibilities, and that any of the other possibilities could have been chosen just as easily. Moreover, because this choice depends on our own whims, we believe that the choice we make is free. However, the experience of choosing is not in question; the will itself is not being denied, rather it is the freedom which the will is said to have that determinism denies. In other words, it is not doubted that a choice is being made by the agent, it is doubted that any other choice could have actually been made. There is a will, but it is not free.

It becomes easier to understand why there cannot be free will when one tries to form a concept of it.

First, imagine a non-free will: this will is subject to the influence of many external factors, including sensory information, emotions, critical analysis, etc., and there is no part of the will that is not caused by something else. This is the kind of will a determinist generally conceives of, one in which external factors determine the state of the will, and therefore determine the outcome of any choice. In this way, any choice that is made is merely the product of cause and effect.

In order to have a free will, at least some part of that will must not be determined by external factors. A will cannot be described as “free” if it is wholly constrained by external factors. So then a free will would have to exist either completely or partially beyond external influence. The critical question becomes, if part of the will is not caused by something external, how does that part exist, and what role does it play in determining choice?

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Daniel Dennett
"Practical and 'Theoretical' Free Will"
The Institute of Philosophy - 10 May 2012

Daniel Dennett contemplates Free Will.  In this 10 minute excerpt, he develops an example using computer chess programs to illustrate what we mean (and *could* mean and *should* mean) by Agency.

The full hourlong podcast is highly recommended as company during housework or repetitive tasks, and can be found on this site.

What do my Consciousness and my Center of Gravity have in common?

For Daniel Dennett, they have lots in common.  The center of gravity is not exactly a material object… but neither is it something that most materialists would take issue with.  It’s an effective logical construct attached to a spread out collection of matter.

Dennett seems to want to say that the Consciousness can be immaterial - much like the Center of Gravity - without violating the spirit of materialist ontology.  He (and I think I as well) find the analogy so suggestive that he defines Consciousness as a person’s “Center of Narrative Gravity”.  Sort of beautiful, don’t you think?

For *lots* more on this topic, he wrote a book, titled (somewhat ambitiously) “Consciousness Explained”.